Talk:Eris/@comment-58.165.222.225-20131003233235/@comment-58.165.222.225-20131004051330

DEF on 8-15 Ziz falls short of 17k I think. But the point is: would you use a Warcry card with below average DEF as a defence card in the first place? I think not.

That's why I think this is better than Ziz because Ziz isn't usable for defence anyway so the extra DEF is moot.