Talk:Dawn of Crimson Bands/@comment-6459948-20130516092338/@comment-50.200.84.108-20130516195336

I didn't see the defence being messed with. I encountered many guilds (damn near all) that had the majority of their members set to DEF 0 and got the resultant lower points scored for battle.

I do agree with the 30% thing. You didn't necessarily need to have a high ATK bar for this to hurt you. 3 rares and low level players and you could get more bang for your potion.