Talk:The Old Hag's Tale/@comment-108.173.216.185-20131212035858/@comment-7310981-20131212042242

The first time you beat her, you get the UR card Ziva (may need to be the one doing the killing blow and/or be MVP). After that happens Ziva is a random drop after beating her (also may require killing blow and/or MVP). Others have said that they have received Ziva from carnage keys, but it's very rare and no proof has been shown, so I am skeptical.